The Disturbing Nature of Lolicon | An Analysis | Internet Archelogy

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Liam McEvoy
Liam McEvoy Oy oldin
Hi fairies! Sorry for the heavy topic on this installment. I wasn't comfortable monetizing it, so I disabled monetization before posting. However, I recently unlocked the "youtube giving" feature. So I thought this video would be a great opportunity to use it! Thanks for checking out my video :)- Liam
silvia dunch
silvia dunch 14 kun oldin
oh boi i hope you never discover rule 34 ... o wait xD too late
Sleepydeity
Sleepydeity 18 kun oldin
I understand the misconception though, scaramouche does look young but in reality he's just short and the art style makes him look younger. He's canonly around 30+ years old and is not a child whatsoever:).
Sleepydeity
Sleepydeity 18 kun oldin
Hello! Scaramouche (the black haired character who you said wasn't 24) is actually pretty old! He's older than childe and signora (a few of the other harbingers he is in a group with who are hinted to be 20-30 years old) and he's one of the oldest in their group!!
G HD is dead channel
G HD is dead channel Oy oldin
What a baby
revolutionofthekind
revolutionofthekind Oy oldin
Yooou...should look into the phenomenon of "proshipping". Its very very much related to this topic.
XiXi AzXa
XiXi AzXa 12 soat oldin
I can’t believe people are still arguing about this in the comments.. if you defend it you’re part of the problem
Otneimica
Otneimica Kun oldin
Though unrelated to the topic, the way your eyes look in this video's thumbnail is really weird. Your left eye just trails off, and it's a little unnerving. I don't know if you edited that still to look that way or something, but if you didn't, you might want to get that eye checked out.
Phil Ofuani
Phil Ofuani 3 kun oldin
loved the video. my poor genshin impact ;_;
leggo your ego
leggo your ego 3 kun oldin
the lolicons are so mad in these comments it's hilarious
Teodora Ristić
Teodora Ristić 4 kun oldin
He did not need to keep that my little pony vore art up for so long☹
Teodora Ristić
Teodora Ristić 4 kun oldin
"One of the things I saw that inspired me to make this video was a poll on a subreddit for genshin impact..." *oh god oh fuck*
Kuasocto
Kuasocto 4 kun oldin
Also, nice job providing sources for all those claims, like e.g. lolicons being parasites that infect fandoms and after destroying them they jump to new fandoms. OH WAIT! YOU HAVE NONE!
Kuasocto
Kuasocto 4 kun oldin
If only you fools spent a fraction of the time you spend on being disgusted by lolicons actually doing something about real child molesters the world would be a better place. But no, go after the weirdos that like drawings and ASSUME they're doing something wrong in the background.
leggo your ego
leggo your ego 3 soat oldin
if only you could worry about both...oh yeah- you can.
Zofie Drozda
Zofie Drozda 4 kun oldin
Thank you 🌿
Eminala
Eminala 5 kun oldin
I hate people who defend it like “well at least they aren’t sexualizing real kids” like,, why do we have to be okay with one or the other?? they’re both disgusting!!??
Uga buga sekapakapeng
Uga buga sekapakapeng Kun oldin
@Eminala then you're talking about me too because it's true that they're not real kids and there's nothing wrong about it
Eminala
Eminala Kun oldin
@Uga buga sekapakapeng quit trying to start something, the only people I take issue with are the ones i’m talking about.
Uga buga sekapakapeng
Uga buga sekapakapeng Kun oldin
@Eminala well that's very ignorant of you then, do you think it's ok to treat everyone with different sexual preferences than you like that?
Eminala
Eminala Kun oldin
@Uga buga sekapakapeng yes.
Uga buga sekapakapeng
Uga buga sekapakapeng Kun oldin
Just because you personally find it disgusting, so it's not your taste you think it's not ok?
Fated Destiny
Fated Destiny 5 kun oldin
jenshin lol genshin
radchoco
radchoco 5 kun oldin
these people are literally trash, and there's so many of them on twitter omg. there needs to be anti lolicon spray and then they turn into dust lol
Arianne Ikusa
Arianne Ikusa 5 kun oldin
Liam, lolicons are growing in the Vtuber community 😑😑 It's really gross really
Erin Riley
Erin Riley 5 kun oldin
Some of y'all just need to admit what you are, go to therapy, and get off the internet. Cp is cp. Liam, thank you for being awesome.
retarded bundleofsticks
retarded bundleofsticks 5 kun oldin
ugly girl jealous of pics. priceless.
leggo your ego
leggo your ego 3 soat oldin
he isn't a female 🥴
Wild- Energy
Wild- Energy 5 kun oldin
It's hard to tell if it's an innocent thing or not because in japan there are lots of men who are fascinated with girls. you know what girls i'm talking about.
ღ ѕєяαρнιηє ღ
ღ ѕєяαρнιηє ღ 6 kun oldin
Lolis aren't a problem in itself... Loli is really just an art style of sorts It's when they're sexualized is when it becomes a problem... I can't believe I have to say this but children or the depiction of children should NOT be in content that is meant to arouse
Nacket Donut
Nacket Donut 6 kun oldin
As a Genshin Impact player, I hate seeing the weird shit people say about the kid characters. It's really gross shit, especially since there's so many adult characters
Claflin
Claflin 7 kun oldin
@5:45 THAT MLP ART IS KILLING ME WHAT IS THAT
Claflin
Claflin 7 kun oldin
Lolicons are just p#dophiles being held back from IRL crimes by doing internet crimes instead. They’re so disgusting.
MrShameless
MrShameless 7 kun oldin
5:10 lol what is this bullshit your spouting.
Eros Cortez
Eros Cortez 7 kun oldin
Oooo did y’all know Grimes is a peterfile!!
Proud DDS: Diehard Dreamcatcher Simp
Proud DDS: Diehard Dreamcatcher Simp 7 kun oldin
OMG Liam is a fellow Filipino. One of us! One of us! 🤩
Lavose
Lavose 9 kun oldin
I believe the term "Lolicon" is a slang term for pedophile since the term comes from the other term known as "Lolita Complex" which basically means a pedophile so there's that.
Lady Lavender
Lady Lavender 10 kun oldin
I’m usually very open minded in fandom. I’m incredibly pro ship for example. I don’t believe what people consume in media necessarily reflects to their real views. But lolicon is just too far for me. Being attracted to anime characters that are underage but appear way older (like most characters) but being attracted to characters who are explicitly children in their appearance and behavior, It’s definitely weird
Mohamad Fawwaz
Mohamad Fawwaz 12 kun oldin
I'm pretty sure young people would stay away from lolicons
Kate pro
Kate pro 14 kun oldin
u failed to explain WHY lolicon is a problem . Majority of people are attracted to young , and since its illegal , some are trying to find salvation in cartoon fantasy . Can someone fucking explain how u perceive it as a CHILD ABUSE if its a damn art that did not involve real people whatsoever ?
silvia dunch
silvia dunch 14 kun oldin
this has been going on since the dawn of man if you actually read history you would know xD im more freaked out on you trying to be a female O_0 tbh
meatluvr
meatluvr 12 kun oldin
what... 😕
silvia dunch
silvia dunch 14 kun oldin
i cant tell... if its a man ... or a women... O_0
Bryce
Bryce 15 kun oldin
First off, nice makeup. Just found your channel and as somebody who enjoys anime yeah this is sick. Edit: kamusta :D
Jake Judge
Jake Judge 16 kun oldin
Doesn’t Genshin have a chat function? 🌚 “Genshin Impact players choose my makeup” when, bestie? 🔫
Vector of Courage
Vector of Courage 16 kun oldin
If your message is against the general exploitation of children, why didn't you include the male equivalent of Shotacon into the bunch?
radchoco
radchoco 5 kun oldin
They probably didn't know about it or didn't have enough information about it. You can't expect someone to know everything
szara
szara 16 kun oldin
If you had argued against nsfw of kids media in general: Ok. Unrealistic, but at least consistent with the point that kids shouldn't be exposed to 18+. But: If the server was 18+, then it doesn't matter what the game is rated as. Kids would have no business being on that server. There's no henhouse; it's foxes only. If you had argued against certain weird kinds of nsfw fanart of *any* media, adult or child: Okay, so you see some potential harm in it to the audience. Can't say I agree (as long as everything is labelled and in its proper space; see above), but oh well. But not both. You can't argue that clearly labeled NSFW fanart of a kids' game isn't allowed to have weird fetishes bc it's a kids' game and kids shouldn't see that. It's nsfw. It's not for kids. Even if it were "normal" nsfw (adult characters, nothing kinky) it would still not be for kids.
SumSenpai
SumSenpai 17 kun oldin
(Please note I May edit this comment a couple of times.) Even though I don't support "Loli art" It's better to keep that disgusting material legal because, there are sooooo many mainstream and popular Artist's and media that often show a lot of Child like characters in their media that are themed after something illegal. Not to mention it would take away a lot of artistic freedom. If you banned This kind of material, you're gonna have to say goodbye to all kinds of artists like: Melanie Martinez A Majority of the Vocaloid and Utau producers The creators of Jojos Bizarre adventure The creators of Boku no hero academia And even the creators of those cringy violent child OCs that you find on deviantart. Now you may be wondering why I mention stuff like jjba and melanie martinez, so I'm gonna answer you. A huge majority of jjba's and Melanie martinez' characters are under 18. This has been the case ever since Stardust crusaders all the way to golden wind and so on. Melanie's K-12 series and Cry baby series has a similar case. You may also be wondering why they are relevant to this video when the media I mentioned barely has any S- xualisan in them. Well if you're trying illegalise "Loli art" because you think it's c- P- rn, and also child ab use then, Childlike characters being in all kinds of art with other dark themes such as Violence and Dr ugs also counts as child ab use. So therefore those would go aswell, and we would only be allowed to make Art with lighter themes in them if it has a childlike character in it. Again, I don't support "Loli art" nor do I look at it. Trust me, I have encountered so many disturbing Manga and art featuring loli's and shotas with highly illegal natures and so many of them have scarred me. But the best thing to do is to look away from all of it as, getting rid of it will only do more harm than good. Oh and, Dont be afraid to be concerned about or be disturbed by a loli con or Shota con. I think it's obvious that majority of them are pedophiles.
Giant Pink Cat
Giant Pink Cat 20 kun oldin
Imagine being so triggered about a video that you answer to every reply that agrees with it whole essays about why they're "wrong". Gee who would do that?
Snookie
Snookie 20 kun oldin
i wouldnt say lolicon is an issue. there are 3 papers that come to mind a hawaii paper on "Pornography and Sex Crimes in the Czech Republic" a copenhagen paper that discredited the link between fictional ch1Idp0rn and p3d0philia and also even prostasia(a foundation that is about protecting children) did an articleon "Why the UN is wrong to equate drawings to sexual abuse" sure its a really weird kink/fetish but thats all it is...a fetish
giannis r.
giannis r. 21 kun oldin
I am not a lol1con fan kind of thing but I am a bit into h3ntai and these things overlap in many cases. Let me tell you actual arguments instead of " it's just a drawing". First of all, do we all know why cp is illegal? It is because in order to be created children are harmed, and on distribution demand rises and more and more children will be harmed in the future. This is absolutely disgusting and innocent children should be protected at all costs. Lol1s however have nothing to do with actual children. No-one is getting hurt upon making it and no-one is getting hurt by its destribution. "But they look like children and that feeds into the p3doph1lic community". No. This is the same exact argument as saying furrys feed the zo0ph1lic community and that violent videogames cause people to act violently. Fiction and reality are not the same and people can see the difference. Now there is a fine line I would like to address. There are some stuff out there called "hyperrealistic lol1s". These are basically cp images, enhanced to look like cartoonish. I am not talking about these, these are awful. I am talking about images created from ground up from artists. Happy to discuss any other arguments if you want Edit: having to censor words for UZpost is total bs, but I can't post this otherwise, sry for inconvenience. And while I am at it, I have met people who were victims of child abuse and they say it is depressing that people even compare what these children have gone through to lol1s
Solatic Syot
Solatic Syot 22 kun oldin
Okay but what's the solution? If it's just let's get rid of it, then it's pretty easy to defend this, is the harm of children the actual problem or not? If so then we're fine because drawings representative of children don't cause harm to those children barring some extreme scenarios such as if an actual child is used as a reference in making the art. Further, while real studies on the matter is pretty much non-existent you can definitely make the case that it's likely access to this kind of material is a way to cope and reduces risk of offenders. Let's be honest, does suppression of this and the resulting celibacy seem like it would realistically work? Personally I doubt it. Also, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Genshin with a "J" sound lol
ドラコイアント-日本ではない
ドラコイアント-日本ではない 22 kun oldin
(This comment Will be edit while watching the video to give some of my opinion, even if you agree with or not its not part of my problem) The point of l0l1c0n bad is basically they similar to p3d0 while l0li1c0n had different subject, yeah its all i gotta say, 4 minute to the video and she talking about genshin impact nsfw Reddit, like ma'm first of all no kid allowed to access that subreddit (After watching till the end opinion of me being weeb how defense my fellow l0l1con weeb) Ok so after 4 minute she talk about lolicon as something that ruin anything they touch, she don't really have any argument that make l0l1c0n as bad as criminal level bad, You saying that l0l1c0n jump to fandom and ruin it like they a fuxkin horny weeb that just go all out asking artist to draw a nsfw lmao 😂, ma'm l0l1c0n is not the one draw l0l1 nsfw artist is the one drawing them, It seem that you trying to making l0lic0n seen like they always a horny bastard that asking for nsfw art on every l0l1 sfw fan art on general which pretty false, lolicon not gonna go out there saying something that they say on nsfw post to an sfw post, you pretty dumb if you think like that, The Problem that you talking is that *"l0l1c0n ruin fandom because they like l0l1and say nasty stuff in nsfw subreddit"* are you dumb or something? Of course they gonna talk nasty shit if they was on nsfw subreddit 🤦🏻‍♂️ I agree with you on trying to make racist thing because its dumb and i never seen people saying that, PG 12/13 game Will not be save with fanart or h3nt4i art in general ma'm no kid should be allowed to access such subreddit if they still minor plus l0lic0n is exist like decade ago, they never ruin a fandom but their fandom is the one getting ruin 🤡 which so dumb Like l0l1c0n exist in every fandom ma'm they not jump to another fandom after they ruin it, lolicon is exiest in everyfandom that had artist drawing nsfw art, if lolicon really are just weeb that ruin fandom there Will be alot more people that hate l0lic0n And no l0lic0n gonna say something like *"that hot"* if the l0li art is just sfw cute art no l0lic0n gonna say nasty stuff if its not mean to be nsfw art, i Speechless hear that from you that trying to make l0lic0n something like they make problem when in Reality they just like other weeb that have fetish, Like ma'm if we treat l0lic0n fetish like a criminal then weeb in general all of them that access h3nt4i is also bad, belive it or not weeb fetish genre is The most numerous and disgusting you ever seen, You real just farming people that hate l0lic0n because they seek moral and human right to a God damn anime character at this point 🤦🏻‍♂️ which pretty disappointing, Ok the last paragrah, l0lic0n is already exist like decade ago, Its never become problem but people decided that exposing them is good, people at this point just bullying Shame weeb, while its true that our fetish is weird as long as it doesn't count as criminal level bad, or we don't talk it publicly its shouldn't be a problem, you talking about it Will not change anything other that just shaming l0lic0n with your fans, Here i am watching your video because i want to see what argument other that "its similar to ped0phil3" which turn out to be big disappointment, Like if l0lic0n is as bad as you say then feel free to tell me what bad thing lolicon do that they should be put on jail? Remeber weeb horny to anime character and they fap to anime character lolicon also fap to l0li nsfw which basically a anime character, Like if lolicon never done such bad thing in sociality then stop trying to make it a problem! Can we just had enough already? L0lic0n exist for decade because in first place its doesn't done anything that harm in general, Instead is the opposite, weeb that are l0lic0n is the one getting bully even tho they never done anything bad, some jp artist even quit Twitter because she/he get bully and death thread, Ok then for ending this opinion of mine while countering you false info (some of it) i done, i Will just say stop trying make it a problem if they never done anything bad other that feeling pleasure from their fetish, because you don't have any good argument You don't give me confidence to hate l0lic0n, L0lic0n never done any criminal thing, l0lic0cn never act Nasty to a normal loli art on general, l0lic0n exist on any anime fandom because they weeb, l0lic0n never destroy a fandom people like you are the one destroying their fandom, if you try to make me believe that l0lic0n done bad thing then give me Proof and don't just talking about how subreddit mods ask if there should be lewd of loli character from genshin because that not gonna do you anything if you want to Make people believe that lolicon is as bad as ped0, just stop trying to make lolicon look bad like they hurting people because so far so for all i see is just people like you that hurt them, calling them pedophile make them as same level as them and making them feel like they done a bad thing, its just shit persona on you for making l0lic0n like they a big problem when Ita not true at all, l0lic0n exist for decade and its already destroy you argument of l0lic0n being bad on a fandom beside they exist on nsfw fandom that show anime character getting r@pe, that just how anime nsfw ia on general anime girl getting bondage and r@pe, plus genshin lewd subreddit is allowing r@pe genre on their subreddit which pretty hypocrite for them because if they count l0lic0n as pedophile the they should count weeb how like genshin character getting r@pe a rapist, I done now thank for wasting my time and fxck you for keep giving misinforrmation information on l0lic0n being bad.
Lavose
Lavose 9 kun oldin
Op is a dude
ドラコイアント-日本ではない
ドラコイアント-日本ではない 22 kun oldin
Feel free to pin my comment if you like to see what your fan gonna say about me countering some of your false info with no argument other that lolicon bad because they bad
Arix
Arix 22 kun oldin
I guess youtube will keep removing my comment.
frogibun
frogibun 23 kun oldin
as someone who is part of the genshin impact community, we do not claim those people who call qiqi , diona and klee lolis. a lot of people do not support it and please do not confuse us with people who justify lolis.
Nyatta • 10 years ago
Nyatta • 10 years ago 24 kun oldin
I agree with everything you said but 7:15 ...girlllll as much as he looks like a minor... he is actually older than Childe who is around 19 or more...and it’s confirmed cause Childe is youngest Fatui member....💀
Sewer Fairy
Sewer Fairy 26 kun oldin
Ugh, I shouldn't have eaten while watching this. As a little side-note, from my own understanding as someone who has studied languages and etymology, the term "Loli" (LOH-LEE) has a much more disturbing origin: Vladimir Nabokov's novel "Lolita". The term itself "lolicon" ("Lolita" + "Complex") is even synonymous in the Japanese language with "p*dophile". Lolita, however is a fashion style/ counterculture that has somewhat vague roots in that concept, but ultimately goes in a different direction, where it's women and girls dressing as if they were dolls from the Victorian era. "Dolly" and "Lolita" are both pet-names of the name "Dolores" (usually meaning "sorrowful"), same name as Humbert's female victim in Nabokov's novel. Perhaps something was lost in translation, or it's simply a strange coincidence of etymology that both "Loli" and "Lolita" share a similar origin.
Lascarys
Lascarys 22 kun oldin
"Is even a synonymous to the Japanese word" No, it isn't
ReectJ The Minecraft Weeb
ReectJ The Minecraft Weeb 26 kun oldin
As a irl loli i am now sad °^°
Faith 📖
Faith 📖 8 kun oldin
"Real life loli" You should take a break on consuming anime.
Skyx Clouds
Skyx Clouds 11 kun oldin
you're not a "irl loli", you are just a short person trying to get attention
Tommy Jenkins
Tommy Jenkins 27 kun oldin
Fiction does not affect reality and Loli art is harmless.
Faith 📖
Faith 📖 8 kun oldin
Yeah man fiction indeed does not affect a person's mental capacity so therefore people can't be addicted
Skyx Clouds
Skyx Clouds 11 kun oldin
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meelrochan
meelrochan 27 kun oldin
Scaramouche is 20+, childe is the youngest member in the fatui and he’s 19-20, making scaramouche at least 21
Josh S
Josh S 27 kun oldin
No. Your grasp on sexuality, and the nature of fetishism is paper thin. Comparing anime children to real human children is simply nonsense.
Lascarys
Lascarys 3 soat oldin
@leggo your ego lmao
leggo your ego
leggo your ego 3 soat oldin
you lolicons are sick, please stay away from kids
giannis r.
giannis r. 21 kun oldin
@Warren Caelum if I depict a murder on a cartoon that makes me a murderer? Real or not still murder? It doesn't make sense
Lascarys
Lascarys 22 kun oldin
@Warren Caelum Doesn't matter, it's fiction
Warren Caelum
Warren Caelum 24 kun oldin
they're still depicting children, real or not, it's still CHILDREN.
falsehero2001
falsehero2001 28 kun oldin
I had clicked on this video hoping for some genuine insight into the casually accepted presence of lolicon in anime. I’m disappointed at the lack of anything of substance in this video. These are Japanese artists creating media depictingJapanese children in sexually suggestive situations for consumption by a Japanese audience. Blaming western audiences for fetishizing Asians does not explain the extent of material produced prior to the rise of popularity of Anime in the west, nor the irresponsible number of works created since that never saw official licensed export for being too risky.
Shinigami Kitsune
Shinigami Kitsune 28 kun oldin
*If you lewd the Klee, you deserve a scooter to the knee.*
Toshkii
Toshkii 28 kun oldin
It’s problematic especially because of the age group playing the game. The art style is fine: it’s a child friendly game, so there are younger characters for the younger audience to relate to. The issue stems then when the younger audience googles art of their favourite character and sees like a ton of explicit imagery 😭
The Sun
The Sun 29 kun oldin
I wish all shows that had kids in them drew them like the big mouth characters, way too ugly to wanna touch
May Chan
May Chan 29 kun oldin
This is soooooo easy to digest... broken down to soo simpler parts.. I genuinely want young adult fandom population to know and under this...
Josh S
Josh S 20 kun oldin
@Warren Caelum Brilliant argument, mate.
Warren Caelum
Warren Caelum 24 kun oldin
@Josh S which you are
Josh S
Josh S 27 kun oldin
It's still horse shit, though.
Turtle Boy
Turtle Boy Oy oldin
The neck.... Watch the neck
b ruh
b ruh Oy oldin
Boo hoo
Kazmir Runik
Kazmir Runik Oy oldin
A lot of the pro-li arguments are transparently disingenuous, but a core of a lot of the arguments against it have similar energy to the idea of video game violence causing real violence. Like, the pro-li implications are obvious, but even without moving to their core, your implications include the ideas that: - you're not allowed to be attracted to adults who DO look naturally young regardless of their race or gender expression - that it should be less allowable for older people to enjoy things that are also enjoyed by younger people like video games or Lego building - that the moral degeneration ruins any franchise once it reaches some critical mass despite franchises actually flourishing from controversy and a lot of the detractors being people who weren't in the franchise's customer base to begin with. You've got holes in every actual argument presented even if pro-li people can be dismantled to the point that they're arguing for exploitation, which is probably your best argument even though you didn't actually mention it. A lot of the people who would languish over the reality of their feelings for their waifus are also the very same people who would say it's just a drawing when you bring up lolicon. What makes them so slippery is that it always requires that additional baggage to pin them down like that, something BESIDES the actual subject matter. What about the people without waifus who also come up with this framework where they're not arguing for exploitation? Lolicon is typically defined as legal material under that moral ground, as it isn't exploitation and there doesn't seem to be a necessary cause-and-effect chain that leads from it to exploitation. Like how participating in video game shootouts doesn't have a similar cause-and-effect chain without some additional baggage applied, and that's where we arrive back at the beginning of this post.
Josh S
Josh S 27 kun oldin
The fact it is fiction just eliminates the victim, it doesn't mean you aren't still aroused by a child. So, here's where the real defense comes in, cartoons are not equivalent to human beings, a cartoon of a real human being is still just a cartoon of a human being, it is not equivalent, the nature of a cartoon and a living human, vary significantly in appearance, and how they are processed as visual information. On top of that, you can add in anime stylization, which makes the cartoon even less realistically human. The idea that the end result of an anime child being similar enough in scope to compare directly to a human child, to ascertain whether or not sexual arousal to one example is equivalent to being sexually aroused by the other example, is to put it mildly, both absurd, and a rejection of reality as we know it.
Xiao Simp
Xiao Simp Oy oldin
Scaramouche is an adult, he talks and behaves like so, there's proof of his age since Childe (one of the members of the organization scaramouche is in) is the youngest yet he's in his 20s. Scaramouche's height and looks might make him look young but he isn't, in the game he looks trustworthy at first because of his innocent and young appearance but later we discover it's just a facade. I honestly find people calling characters like Scaramouche, Lumine(etc) minors just because of their looks and completely disregarding their story and actions problematic and a bit insulting, because adult short, young looking people exist. But for the children (Diona, Klee and Qiqi) they ARE children, behave and talk like one. Klee is around 8 y/o and Diona 12 and even tho Qiqi is a zombie (over 100 years old), the game made clear that both her body and mind are still of a child (like she's stuck in the past forever). I do not feel comfortable calling them lolis because of the disgusting connectations it has.
C̶h̶e̶r̶r̶y̶
C̶h̶e̶r̶r̶y̶ 29 kun oldin
Yeah like I’m ok when it comes to most of the characters in Genshin, I don’t agree with it since I just personally don’t want to sexualize them but i don’t find it that problematic, however characters like Klee, qiqi, diona, and even paimon shouldn’t be sexualized for reasons you already gave, but in paimons case I see her as an adult but she looks like a child so it’d be kinda questionable to sexualize her.
مصطفى صلاح علي عبد الحسين
مصطفى صلاح علي عبد الحسين Oy oldin
I grew up loving anime and I still do love it, but whenever there is a loli character in a show ( even in an acclaimed show) I would take two points from the show for featuring such character. For example fairy tail was a 6 out of 10 show for me , but when it began featuring loli characters it dropped to 4 out of 10 for me
Lascarys
Lascarys 22 kun oldin
LMAOOOO such biased score
saymyname
saymyname Oy oldin
Yeah that is disgusting and very disturbing. I think part of that word is like banned from searches and some social media because that word brings up illegal content spread online. You could get arrested irl for those. I get that people can use those cartoon/animations for a different purpose but that is really disgusting and they should be called out for liking that stuff or using that word.
kawaii desu
kawaii desu Oy oldin
people do be fighting fiction instead of the real shit
Lavose
Lavose 28 kun oldin
You can focus on both. They're both problems that need to be addressed, ones just more serious than the other and hard to stop
loveyabtw
loveyabtw Oy oldin
I’ll just say here... I love Genshin Impact, I love Klee and QiQi (and if you automatically think that I love them romantically wtf? I don’t) They are adorable, they are and will be children, I will protect them >:/
Zukini
Zukini Oy oldin
The guy you were arguing with when they said that the genshin character was 24, they were right.. lol just letting you know. He’s a young adult, he’s just short and the anime art style makes him look young ig
C̶h̶e̶r̶r̶y̶
C̶h̶e̶r̶r̶y̶ 29 kun oldin
I don’t know if he is 24 but he is around that age because most characters in Genshin don’t have specific ages
allisonr00lz
allisonr00lz Oy oldin
In Genshin there's a mission where you help a grown man get flowers for a little girl because he's in love with her lol
allisonr00lz
allisonr00lz 18 kun oldin
@Sleepydeity i hope you're right, because that seems like a pretty big oversight imo
Sleepydeity
Sleepydeity 18 kun oldin
In the original script she was supposed to be an adult, they just forgot to change the voicelines :).
A11exe Ferino
A11exe Ferino Oy oldin
On another note, I was ranting about this subject the other day and I think that the reason lolicons CAN justify their actions by saying "it's just drawings" is because real children are not what anime deems them to be. They are often snot-nosed brats who annoy you by asking if your phone has games or not one too many times. Children are not "attractive" the way anime portrays them, therefore there is a disconnect from real kids and lolis.
Gay Plastic
Gay Plastic Oy oldin
Loli and lolita are quite different. Loli is the whole art style and such. Lolita is the look, dress and aesthetic we all know. Which is kinda wack considering loli and lolicon kinda mirrors the novel lolita whereas the aesthetic and outfits are kinda in their own dimensions.
Mightily Oats
Mightily Oats Oy oldin
that nail polish colour though
Emilie
Emilie Oy oldin
Why do men .. simply.
kawaii desu
kawaii desu Oy oldin
@BScoop stfu it is true
Nolllicnt
Nolllicnt Oy oldin
@BScoop Could you please specify what’s not true?
BScoop
BScoop Oy oldin
@Nolllicnt not true
Nolllicnt
Nolllicnt Oy oldin
Women do this shit equality. It’s called shotacon, but people don’t talk about it as much because people don’t only care about pedophilia when it’s a guy.
Vanessa M
Vanessa M Oy oldin
1:26 omg I lost it when I saw this hahahah 😂
Ztxjdukkkkklo
Ztxjdukkkkklo Oy oldin
Hey. Happy to support!
21 fandoms
21 fandoms Oy oldin
I don't know if that's a fair comparison, but a lot of mha (that I've noticed) lolicons also do the "it's just a drawing" shıt 😐. when I was still in the fandom I found that very disgusting and sickening. but now after actually hearing the explanation of the terminology, I am even more disgusted 🙃
Lascarys
Lascarys 22 kun oldin
Specifically what kind of drawings of BNHA are you referring to?
21 fandoms
21 fandoms Oy oldin
one other fandom that I would like to mention is hetalia. be thankful if you weren't present on the internet in its early days 🙂
slime time
slime time Oy oldin
When I was younger on the internet, I got... stuck? in this community. I'm afab and there was a lot of older gross men around me. I was always incredibly uncomfortable and targeted by these gross men and I only was able to...get away from them when I just stopped using that platform all together. I thought the art was cute because I was a young girl (at the time) who liked anime and I felt like I could relate to characters with that appearance but I ended up really uncomfortable with everything..because of those experiences I had seeing sexual things and being harassed by gross people.
Dopey Doo
Dopey Doo Oy oldin
In genshin impact you can see which characters are “under the drinking age” and drinking age can range from 16-18 so any character under that is obviously a minor ... Sexualizing an under developed, prepubescent body is not okay don’t matter if the “character” is 20 or 100 years old. It’s gross.
Dopey Doo
Dopey Doo Oy oldin
@a cat on the z axis oh wow. What about alone without a guardian?
a cat on the z axis
a cat on the z axis Oy oldin
In Germany, you can drink at the age of 14 if a parent or so is present
Rori Kyõ
Rori Kyõ Oy oldin
2021: Pixels have rights now, lol I fucking swear everyone is so retarded.
݁ VENTI
݁ VENTI Oy oldin
“It’s a drawing!!1!1!” Of what? Because fiction or not the shit that these lolicons look at is so.. Bad? And about the scaramouche thing! He’s Most likely a legal adult because as stated in the storyline, Childe is the youngest harbinger. But it’s the fact that scaramouche is Russian (based off of the nation that he came from), so his excuses and arguments of fetishising Asians and saying that they all look as young as Klee or Diona is so suspicious and disgusting as hell.
Meli
Meli 12 soat oldin
Scaramouche isn't russian/sneznhayan tho he's from Inazuma which is based on Japan lmao
KayANORUDOG
KayANORUDOG Oy oldin
I’m happy the anime community is starting to talk about this more. I love anime but the over sexualization of girls and women in the medium have caused me to watch less of it. Of course not all anime are like this but......... a huge amount of it is.
Kanani M
Kanani M Oy oldin
Lolicon is literally pedophilia, there is such thing as a "loli doll" and it is for pedophiles, as a weeb we disown all lolicons (and the male counterpart of a loli which I forgot the name of) from the community and hope they stop their ways :)
Alan Chen
Alan Chen Oy oldin
Loli is cute. But want to having sex with loli is problematic.
Kanani M
Kanani M Oy oldin
@G HD is dead channel idk if we are thinking of the same loli doll my friend, the one im talking about looks like a literal child and i think is used for inappropriate things 🥲 Edit: ok after further research it is used for inappropriate things
G HD is dead channel
G HD is dead channel Oy oldin
Its not
Caro
Caro Oy oldin
I stopped watching anime altogether because I hated how young some characters looked, how dumb and annoying they made women act and how frequent abuse and assault was. I still play jrpg and enjoy them a lot but I sometimes wish I could go back and find a good anime were I don't see these problems.
Angel Dirk
Angel Dirk 29 kun oldin
Good
G HD is dead channel
G HD is dead channel Oy oldin
That’s your own problem not anime
mrsMashimaro
mrsMashimaro Oy oldin
i actually find it funny that you would put proof of the real intentions you had with this video (the tweet) at the beginning of the video. It should be clear to everyone that you're only doing this for attention and to bash a group of people you dont't like. you put analysis in the title but where is it? the only thing you're doing is spreading misinformation and talking shit. 1. you are comparing l0licon to csem 2. you are saying the "l0li community" is ruining good things 3. by that logic, are you saying csem is ruining good things? so, the important thing here to you wouldn't be children suffering from csem but the things you like being "ruined" by certain people you don't like? you are comparing real children's trauma and suffering to fictional drawings.
αηgєl кσƒ
αηgєl кσƒ Oy oldin
@mrsMashimaro my comments keep getting deteled so I’m writing some words backwards. To make it short so no deteled happen again, you should’ve chosen to compare ilol to another SHITEF not a noitatneiro lauxes dezilanigram
mrsMashimaro
mrsMashimaro Oy oldin
​@αηgєl кσƒ You can be uncomfortable with everything i don't care but then it's on you to avoid these things. just because you are disgusted by something doesn't mean it's right to accuse people of serious crimes etc. because of it. i said that last part only as an observation because of how ridiculous that person sounded, with their reasoning as to how l0lic0ns ruin everything they touch as if they're being forced to look at it, and that they can avoid it. and h0m0phobes judge things disgust based, liam is judging l0lic0ns disgust based. are actual people being harmed in either case? h0m0sexuality doesn't harm anyone (it's just love), l0li doesn't harm anyone (it's fictional). but we find csem disgusting and it's a crime? bc it harms children. so the reasoning liam uses isn't meaningful. i'm not actually comparing lgbtq to p3dophilia here but the thought process of how those things are being judged. we can obviously say that h0m0phobia is wrong and in the best case scenarios it's a crime, bc it harms people. that's what i wanted to convey. You are right though, I'm queer myself and understand what you mean and I realize now that it can be taken the wrong way. I will edit that part out so that no one will misunderstand and feel encouraged about connecting lgbtq to p3dophilia. thank you edit: I forgot sth
αηgєl кσƒ
αηgєl кσƒ Oy oldin
I’m only responding to your comment for that last ignorant segment: being uncomfortable with p/dophilia is not similar to homophobia, and you people that like lolis or incest and all the other stuff need to stop comparing the actual wrongful discrimination against the normalization of the LGBT to people being reasonably disgusted when you are open about liking anime couples involving 2 siblings or your waifus looking like they’re 10-12 years old. How df are you gonna complain about Liam’s comparisons and then make such a comparison? Your comparisons are arguably worse because as someone always arguing with homophobes I can confirm that arguments like yours are what homophobes use as evidence for why they think the LGBT is a gateway to p/dophilia, beastiality, incest, and much more. You wanna go make an argument against Liam, go ahead. But kindly stfu about the LGBT and just stick to saying fiction doesn’t affect reality and that actual children need to be saved.
mrsMashimaro
mrsMashimaro Oy oldin
i can distinguish between reality and fiction. can you?
Lascarys
Lascarys 22 kun oldin
@Emily Vera Disgusting, that's it? nothing else? Any valid argument? Just because it's _disgusting_ we should ban it anywhere?
mrsMashimaro
mrsMashimaro Oy oldin
​@Emily Vera i can see how people find it disgusting, yeah. But finding something disgusting doesn't make it into csem or other crimes. I find gore and splatter films disgusting, doesn't mean i can accuse people that enjoy it of being murderers.
Emily Vera
Emily Vera Oy oldin
We can see how disgusting this is, can you?
Giant Pink Cat
Giant Pink Cat Oy oldin
"The legal age in Japan is 13-" No it is not. That's just the lowest age the Japanese Government can allow in all regions of Japan to put. In all regions of Japan however, the legal age is 18.
Exeonz
Exeonz 4 kun oldin
​@leggo your ego Absolutely not. Watching Gawr Gura won't make you suddenly attracted to ch1ldren. Ped0philes are born into existence, you won't become one from interacting with ch1ldren and you certainly won't become one from consuming and enjoying l0li art which isn't even related to ch1ldren in any way. I follow allot of artists and I don't know of a single one who uses CP as a reference. I don't see a reason or a point in doing so, just a weird redherring from you. That's like saying you have to look at snvff p0rn to draw guro art or be obsessed with g0re videos to make video games. Just illogical nonsense.
leggo your ego
leggo your ego 5 kun oldin
@Exeonz l0licon is a big gateway though. like do you know how many artists use CP as a reference
Exeonz
Exeonz 6 kun oldin
@Giant Pink Cat If you failed to understand somebody's argument that's on you and your level on intelligence, blaming others for it is very pathetic. If you don't use means of mass media and information you're probably very naive and ignorant to begin with but I already knew that just by looking at your name and picture. The classic heavy quote from tf2, ah yes got me with that one.
Exeonz
Exeonz 6 kun oldin
​@αηgєl кσƒ "whatever philosophy class he took really stroked his ego" yeah you have no idea what it's like to surround yourself with most powerful people and grow with them, but thanks for the compliment even though you failed to realize that you gave me it in the first place. Your insult tells me more about yourself than it does anything else, it's quite humorous to me. If I were you I wouldn't have replied back after 2 weeks only to further embarrass yourself again but hey I don't mind it, puts a grin on my face.
Ib fao
Ib fao 17 kun oldin
@Giant Pink Cat pathetic
Holographic. txt
Holographic. txt Oy oldin
While I agree on most of the stuff, I must say that saying all of the nsfw artist who draw in this style are problematic is not the solution either. Yes, this art style as well as the chibi art style are supposed to let the character look more childlike and cute, you also need to understand if the artist is drawing a CHILD or drawing a character in this style to represent innocence. I agree completely on how this might look problematic but the main aspect that makes this problematic in a legal way is if the character IS supposed to be a child and the artist MEANT to draw CP. Drawing an character in child like clothes, can be a representation of innocence and being clueless. Can someone feel uncomfortable seeing this kind of artwork? Of course! And I completely see from where u are coming but with this kind of sense of censoring this artwork one should also consider kink like ddlg as problematic as well. But what does ddlg make it legal? It's the fact that those are two/more consensual adults. This practice of ddlg or making artwork of chibi and loli like characters can be also used as a coping mechanism for victims of child abuse. Do I think that Lolicon is good? No, bc those are mostly people who fetishize the idea that the drawn character is a child, not the innocence that the character is supposed to represent. Is loliart all in all problematic? No, and it should not be for both nsfw artists as well as sfw artists as long as it is NOT a child.
Holographic. txt
Holographic. txt Oy oldin
@Emily Vera than I'm sorry, I just got it wrong from the video that we should erase nswf artist who draw in this style. As said, I agree on the point that lolicon as a community is disgusting.
Emily Vera
Emily Vera Oy oldin
No one is saying we should erase lolis, just lolicon. There's million of views on it on hentai sites, it's disgusting.
Ragu
Ragu Oy oldin
The way that lolicon can translate to pedo... yall are gross
Tommy Jenkins
Tommy Jenkins 27 kun oldin
The word loli con has different connotations in Japan then how you would use it in America.
Ragu
Ragu Oy oldin
@G HD is dead channel I don't tho but ok :/
G HD is dead channel
G HD is dead channel Oy oldin
Stop using google translate.
Random Guy
Random Guy Oy oldin
Love you
Lola
Lola Oy oldin
Liam, I truly appreciate how well researched and structured your videos are, and also appreciate your sense of humour!
mrsMashimaro
mrsMashimaro Oy oldin
"well researched"
Jackie Jordan
Jackie Jordan Oy oldin
These internet deep dives/analysis of yours are my favorite videos on this site. You're so entertaining and informative, thank you so much for all your effort!
Zero
Zero Oy oldin
What a echo chamber this comment section, yikes. The West really needs to keep their hands off anime and Japan as a whole, you people always want to push your political agenda onto things and ruin it. If you don't like it, don't consume the medium, that simple.
a cat on the z axis
a cat on the z axis Oy oldin
@Loca Fries enough japanese hate otaku/nerds in the first place
A common weeb
A common weeb Oy oldin
you can criticize people for drawing perverted l0lis AND help real victims. I've done it and will continue to. L0li hentai has major real world consequences, and can create victims. Random rpe fantasies people have do not, because rpe kinks are between ADULTS! consenting adults might I add. Once again, if you truly can't or won't even attempt to see the difference, you're beyond help.
Zero
Zero Oy oldin
I tried arguing my points but looks like we're just going around in circles at this point, I would rather not waste anymore of my time on this. I said what I wanted to say, if you have the time to get mad at fictional characters then use that time to help real victims.
Zero
Zero Oy oldin
(@Emily Vera) Like I said, if you think the people who draw or partake in that stuff is wrong, you have the right to say it. But canceling people or trying to arrest them (I know you didn't say this, but people actually want this) is stupid, it's fiction. It's like rape fantasies, do you think people in real life would actually want to be involved in that shit? Should we start going after those people who make/consume that media next since they could go after real life people? No? What about Guro or other gray things that is made that people might enjoy? Should those be removed since they could also influence people? What I meant by my last point is that people take more time into scrutinizing these people who like loIis instead of actually going out and helping out real victims, people even have actually reported loIicons to the authorities and could have held up lines for proper victims. I have talked to people like yourselves who also dislike this and 9 times out of 10, none of them tried helping real victims which makes me believe they are some kind of clout chaser or whatever the kids nowadays call it. But if you have, great, you are doing your part. EDIT: Forgot to mention, I have no stance on where it's disgusting or not, I'm just a guy who likes freedom on the internet. Something that doesn't hurt people shouldn't be oppressed.
A common weeb
A common weeb Oy oldin
you're comparing apples to oranges. Stealing a car in a game is entirely different then getting turned on by little girls. I'd trust a person that stole a car in gta with my child. I'd never trust a person that gets hrny over children with my child. If you can't see the difference you're beyond help.
NTorare
NTorare Oy oldin
Damn, so many people suffering of schizophrenia since they are not able to distinguish fiction from reality, yikes. I am a proud LOLICON so stay mad schizos.
αηgєl кσƒ
αηgєl кσƒ Oy oldin
@NTorare You _clearly_ don’t pull females IRL lmao. No wonder you’re so adamant on defending and being proud of liking little 2D girls-only your 2D young waifus won’t reject you. 😂😂😂
NTorare
NTorare Oy oldin
@Emily Vera Just because something is disgusting that doesn't make it illegal.
julianna
julianna Oy oldin
> uses a mental illness as their argument = i have no argument
Emily Vera
Emily Vera Oy oldin
Nah we are just saying its disgusting, enjoy your "schizophrenia" tho
GamingClubzilla
GamingClubzilla Oy oldin
I can’t tell woman or man?
V N P X T
V N P X T Oy oldin
are you offending or just asking?
Yeah I’m a simp so what
Yeah I’m a simp so what Oy oldin
Some of y’all really out here defending NSFW loli art.
Miss .Rechie
Miss .Rechie 17 kun oldin
@NTorare guys look another clown!!
wide putin
wide putin 21 kun oldin
@NTorare "CP is fine as long as it's not real!"
jonathan f.
jonathan f. 22 kun oldin
Pretty close minded to think anime characters look like real children, people must be misinformed lol cause they don't look alike lol
Josh S
Josh S 27 kun oldin
@NTorare Unless you live in countries where lolicon is literal viewed the same as human child porn, because they're fascists.
wide putin
wide putin 28 kun oldin
Notice how they all have anime profile pics
meah
meah Oy oldin
WHY WAS THE MLP VORE ART WAS ON THE SCREEN FOR SO LONG
High May
High May Oy oldin
The point your making around the 7 minute mark is how I feel about the American flag now.
Hann uh
Hann uh Oy oldin
ahh this was brilliantly made! Thankyou!
Hann uh
Hann uh Oy oldin
@Liam McEvoy ah thanks for clearing that up! Dont worry~
tsugu
tsugu Oy oldin
@Liam McEvoy black butler isn't even shotacon tho.. only bad thing about it is the fandom (sebaciel shippers, lewd art/fanfic of ciel, etc). then again, i also watched it when i was 15 so i might be forgetting if there was anything weird in the anime itself.
Liam McEvoy
Liam McEvoy Oy oldin
I said on twitter I watched it in middle school and I cosplayed it when I was 15 :/
Hann uh
Hann uh Oy oldin
@Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari wait really? how do you know this?
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari Oy oldin
Except he likes Black Butler a Shotacon anime so it’s all invalid.
Holly.
Holly. Oy oldin
I’ve also noticed that a lot of people will cry censorship and say they will boycott a video game if the western localisation removes or censors revealing or sexualised outfits of high schools girls and younger.
Never Forget
Never Forget Oy oldin
The double standard of these clowns...apparently they can't live without the sexualization of girls.
Chantl Mcclary
Chantl Mcclary Oy oldin
I like lolis in anime but I'm always creeped out by the way they are portrayed in the shows and its creepy/ discomforting on many levels.
Cool 3c0
Cool 3c0 Oy oldin
I AM A BIIIIIIIG BIIIIIIG PROUD LOLICON YES YES
Dashing Apothecary
Dashing Apothecary Oy oldin
And shota is a huge thing with the yaoi realm like there's some stories that will turn an of age character into a little kid or just a lot of CP that is told in yaoi stories and it's gross but somehow people defend it
Liam McEvoy
Liam McEvoy Oy oldin
@Dashing Apothecary Exactly! They keep bring up black butler as if its the same thing, but it's not nearly as bad as some of the other things mentioned in this video. They had black butler manga in my HS library... It's defs shotabait, but labeling everyone who likes BB as shotacon isn't correct. That's like saying everyone who plays Genshin is lolicon.
Dashing Apothecary
Dashing Apothecary Oy oldin
@Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari it goes way past Black Butler
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari Oy oldin
He literally said Black Butler (a shotacon anime) is one one of his favorite so that pretty much invalidates this video
BeBe Ruth
BeBe Ruth Oy oldin
You are so intelligent and I want to learn more from educated UZpostrs like you.
Natasha Cps
Natasha Cps Oy oldin
Great video but I'd just like to point out that cutesy artstyles doesn't necessarily equate to lolis!! Draw all the lolis you want but don't sexualise them :)
y'all mind if i OwO
y'all mind if i OwO Oy oldin
@Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari dude why do you keep bringing this point up even after they already debunked this statement. Like I just saw you in a different comment saying this, shut up already
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari Oy oldin
This bitch literally said black Butler is one of there favorite anime’s. (A shotacon fan service anime)
horses4555
horses4555 Oy oldin
Another disgusting anime thing is the fact that they depicted anime teenage girls as super innocent. It’s like teenagers know what sex is, teenagers know that Santa isn’t real, teenagers are not these innocent kids. It’s so weird how they draw them with fully mature bodies and figures yet give them the personality and mind of a child. It’s so fucking creepy. Like why is it so hard to depict children as children, teenagers and teenagers and adults as adults. There are clear distinctions between the three.
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari
Thetoothbrushfromnisemonogatari Oy oldin
This person literally said that Black Butlers (a literal lolicon/shotacon fan service anime) one of there favorite anime’s. That pretty much makes this video worthless.
Justin why
Justin why Oy oldin
Well that's mostly because in Japan a woman being seen as innocent is seen as "sexy" which is a big yikes for me.
Enrique Atentar
Enrique Atentar Oy oldin
Loli is the future of Genetic engineering Women to become Pocket Girls.
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